1985-09-26 Dundee Caird Hall Soundcheck

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steve ®

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Post 30-Mar-2007 18:20

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Dundee, Caird Hall (soundcheck) - 26 September 1985
Big Mouth Strikes Again (Bass)
That Joke (drums & Bass)
Drums
Guitar and Drums x2
There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
Big Mouth Strikes Again
The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
Frankly Mr Shankly
Big Mouth Strikes Again
Rusholme Ruffians
Shakespeare's Sister
Jeanne*
What's The World*
The Boy With The Thorn In His Side*
* - with Morrissey
We got up to Dundee about mid-day, found a B&B for the night and headed into town to find the Caird Hall. It's a lovely old sandstone building - there's a picture of me and Paul standing outside it in the slide-show on the Irvine DVD. Security was non-existent, and all the doors were just open. So we spent a while wandering around inside. The main hall had a balcony running right round, with doors opening into some fairly large rooms. Downstairs the stage was at one end with tiered seats radiating from it. It had a very open feel to it ... more like a meeting hall, than a concert hall ... but then, I suppose it probably was originally. The crew were setting up the equipment, so we explored the building a bit more. A bit later the Smiths arrived, and we wandered down to the main hall, and stood quietly at the side. No one seemed to care that we were there. Luckily I'd brought my recorder, so I switched it on and let it roll. Initially they were just getting the drum and bass sound sorted ... but it was quite revealing to hear some songs with just the two basic instruments. It really made me realize how much Andy's bass lines add to the songs. After they'd sorted that out, Johnny joined in and they ran through a few more songs, with Morrissey stepping up right at the end for a run through of the last 3 songs. And then they were gone. We hung around for a while and chatted to the crew, and then eventually left to look for our tea. Gig next week.
Again this was recorded using my Sony Professional Walkman with Sony EMC-929LT Mic onto Metal tape. I've traded the cassette of this a couple of times, but this is the first time I've done a digital transfer of this recording.


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Post 30-Mar-2007 18:49 (after 29 minutes)

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thanks!
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Post 30-Mar-2007 18:50 (after 55 seconds)

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Fantastic. I've been waiting for this one for a while. Many thanks!
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Post 30-Mar-2007 18:52 (after 1 minute)

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thanks a lot
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Post 30-Mar-2007 19:23 (after 31 minute)

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Interesting!
Thanks very much, Steve.
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Post 30-Mar-2007 20:08 (after 45 minutes)

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many thanks for this Steve!
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Post 30-Mar-2007 20:43 (after 35 minutes)

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Loving this mini-tour! Steve, you should try to flesh out your reminiscences...and them keep them to yourself, because someday someone will want to include them in a book!
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Post 30-Mar-2007 20:44 (after 29 seconds)

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so let me get this straight, you were/are the source of the soundchecks?
cause I have the bootleg "Asleep" (more specifically - THESE TRACKS ) :

Soundcheck, Caird Hall, Dundee, Scotland 9/26/85:
06 The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (instrumental)
07 Frankly, Mr Shankly bassline (instrumental)
08 Frankly, Mr Shankly (instrumental)
09 Bigmouth Strikes Again (instrumental)
10 (Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame / Rusholme Ruffians (instrumental)
11 Shakespeare's Sister (instrumental)
12 Jeane
13 What's The World?
14 The Boy With The Thorn In His Side

....this is unbelievable.....by the way, do you have master recordings (if they were your recordings) of :
September 28, 1985 & September 30, 1985* ???
* - same source that I have - http://smithstorrents.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=52
Steve thank you! :)
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Post 31-Mar-2007 08:21 (after 11 hours)

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yes .. most of the soundcheck stuff on asleep are ours ... although not taken from the master tape I might add.
and lerwick and aberdeen are coming up.
BTW ... there's a great peice on the break up of the Smiths in this months Q.
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Post 31-Mar-2007 09:03 (after 41 minute)

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Very nice, thanks a lot
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Post 31-Mar-2007 09:13 (after 10 minutes)

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Thanks for sharing, steve !!
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Post 31-Mar-2007 13:50 (after 4 hours)

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This is great stuff Steve, these soundchecks are really interesting to listen to
Hearing Andy's bass lines like this makes you appreciate his contribution to the band even more.
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Post 31-Mar-2007 15:58 (after 2 hours 8 minutes)

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Dundee, Caird Hall (soundcheck) - 26 September 1985
The crew were setting up the equipment, so we explored the building a bit more. A bit later the Smiths arrived, and we wandered down to the main hall, and stood quietly at the side. No one seemed to care that we were there. Luckily I'd brought my recorder, so I switched it on and let it roll. Initially they were just getting the drum and bass sound sorted ... but it was quite revealing to hear some songs with just the two basic instruments. It really made me realize how much Andy's bass lines add to the songs. After they'd sorted that out, Johnny joined in and they ran through a few more songs, with Morrissey stepping up right at the end for a run through of the last 3 songs. And then they were gone.
:D Thank you, Steve. How incredible to think that you just walked in and recorded this soundcheck. Amazing!
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Post 02-Apr-2007 05:07 (after 1 day 13 hours)

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Thanks! Always appreciate your efforts...!
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Post 02-Apr-2007 19:32 (after 14 hours)

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Wow. Fantastic bass by Rourke. I'd love to hear a remix of That Joke where the bass is left on its own for a while before the lead comes in. I guess track 2 here is about as close as we'll get.
Nice version of There Is A Light too.
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