The Smiths - 4th May 1984 - Rockpalast (Crushed Flowers)

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Post 19-Feb-2007 20:48

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The Smiths
Rockpalast
Markthalle, Hamburg, Germany
May 4th, 1984
Source: [undisclosed] > DVD > VirtualDub Crop > Tsunami DVD Author Pro > Nero
Video: MPEG2 Video 720x576 (4:3) 25.00fps 8000Kbps [Video]
Audio: PCM 48000Hz stereo 1536Kbps [Audio]
Torrent created on 19th February 2007
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This is about the best live video of The Smiths you will find. It is a
pro-shot live gig for the German show Rockpalast. It's 1984, so there are no
Queen Is Dead era songs, but it's still a fantastic track list.
Several versions of this gig have already been made available, but this is the
complete unedited gig in the correct order without subtitles. It also includes
backstage footage and a small introduction from Alan Bangs.
I promised I wouldn't disclose the source of this, hence the [undisclosed] in
the lineage line above. The quality should speak for itself. The source is PAL
and it has remained in PAL.
The picture had a flickering white line slightly outside of frame, so I
cropped it very slightly then wrapped a simple DVD menu around the footage. In
the process I accidentally converted the audio from AC3 256kbps to PCM
1536kbps which makes for bigger files but will not affect sound quality.
This info, screenshots and some great artwork by plainsong are included in the
EXTRAS folder of this DVD.
01. Hand In Glove
02. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
03. Girl Afraid
04. This Charming Man
05. Pretty Girls Make Graves
06. Still Ill
07. Barbarism Begins At Home
08. This Night Has Opened My Eyes
09. Miserable Lie
10. You've Got Everything Now
11. Handsome Devil
12. What Difference Does It Make?
13. /These Things Take Time
14. /This Charming Man
15. //Hand In Glove
16. ///Barbarism Begins At Home
DavidA
http://www.smithstorrents.co.uk
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Notes from PassionsJustLikeMine.com
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4 May 1984
Markthalle, Hamburg, Germany
Hand In Glove
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
Girl Afraid
This Charming Man
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Still Ill
Barbarism Begins At Home
This Night Has Opened My Eyes
Miserable Lie
You've Got Everything now
Handsome Devil
What Difference Does It Make?
/These Things Take Time
/This Charming Man
//Hand In Glove
///Barbarism Begins At Home
Despite this being the Smiths' first gig in Germany, there was a great deal of
stage climbing, or attempts to do so. It seemed like the habit taken on by the
British had crossed over to Europe. The band and particularly Morrissey were
glowing. The concert was a complete success and the Smiths had to perform
three encores.
As the Smiths came on stage, Morrissey, dressed in typical 1984 attire of
large blouse held by one button, NHS specs and flowers in the back pocket,
greeted the audience and launched into "Hand In Glove". After the song he
encouraged the fans "Thank you... please come closer, please come closer...
come closer... come... come..." After the next song "Heaven Knows I'm
Miserable Now", the crowd went into a chant of "Morrissey! Morrissey!". As had
become standard in 1984, "Pretty Girls Make Graves" included that reggae-ish
bridge as Morrissey sang "I could have been wild and I could have been free."
After that number Morrissey introduced the next one "Thank you, you're
delightful... 'Still Ill'!" During that song Morrissey ended up writhing on
the floor twice, crushing the bouquet of flowers that were still in his back
pocket. The next song was introduced "Barbarism begins at home you know..."
After its performance Morrissey enquired "Does anybody have anything really
intelligent to say?... No?" In "This Night Has Opened My Eyes", Morrissey sang
the slightly alternate line "And I'm never happy and I'm never sad". "You've
Got Everything Now" was introduced with "This might sound really hard to
believe... but you've got everything... now!"
After that song the crowd went into the "Morrissey! Morrissey!" chant again.
In "What Difference Does It Make?", Morrissey changed one line to "But now you
make me feel so ashamed because I only got two heads". Towards the end of that
he removed his shirt, swang it around for a short while and threw it into the
crowd, finishing the song, as well as the main set, bare chested.
When the Smiths reentered stage for the first encore, Morrissey exclaimed
"Thank you, you're very nice" and the band started "These Things Take Time".
After the song Morrissey asked "Any suggestions?" extended the microphone to
the first row and had a hard time pulling it back. So far in Europe Morrissey
had be sober on lyrical modifications, probably because of the language
barrier or because the public wasn't as familiar with the words to appreciate
the effect. However in the next song, a second helping of "This Charming Man",
Morrissey changed lines to "Will nature makes a mouse of me yet" and "it's
gruesome that someone so ugly should care".
At the end of that the Smiths left stage once more, and again fans tried to
get on stage while security tried their best to hold them back. After a second
encore of "Hand In Glove" and leaving again, the Smiths were called back by a
"Morrissey! Morrissey!" chant. As they returned, Morrissey lead them instead
in a chant of "Smiths! Smiths! Smiths!". He was successful, even when he asked
them to chant "Louder!". During this final encore for which the Smiths did
"Barbarism Begins At Home" a second time, Morrissey removed his shirt again
and threw it in the audience after giving it a few swings.
BOOTLEGS
This was recorded and broadcast on the German television show Rockpalast. The
first broadcasts included the complete setlist minus the second "Hand In
Glove". Some re-runs were shortened to 10 or 14 songs, in a different order
while other re-runs featured the complete concert.
The television footage has made it onto bootleg videos and DVDs. The recording
in circulation is for the complete concert and is also interesting for the
backstage footage of the Smiths before encores, taking a well deserved break
as the fans in the venue are calling them back.
The whole concert is also available in audio on the "Girl Afraid" bootleg CD.
As it was produced from a television recording, the sound quality is very
good. A bootleg LP simply titled "The Smiths" also features this concert, but
"Miserable Lie" as well as the encores of "This Charming Man" and "Hand In
Glove" are missing.
"Wilde About The Smiths", a factory pressed cd in digipack has "Barbarism
Begins At Home" from this concert with many other live tracks, rarities and
radio and tv sessions.
MP3s of the "Girl Afraid" bootleg was easily found on the usual trading
networks.
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Post 19-Feb-2007 20:53 (after 5 minutes)

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Post 19-Feb-2007 20:59 (after 6 minutes)

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many thanks david!!
this one looks to have the correct color/lighting as well.
excellent! :)
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Post 19-Feb-2007 21:00 (after 43 seconds)

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This one is well worth grabbing, even if you have a good version already.
I spent some time on this and compared it with the other great versions:
.2 Version. Composite video encoding (probably). Nasty subtitles.
Festival Version. Direct digital encode from satellite. Good version but not the full set.
VH2. Full gig. Incorrect order. Sub-standard sound.
I did some comparisons here, here, here and here.
A thousand thanks to the source, who wishes to remain anonymous. I did a little crop, wrapped a DVD menu around it and plainsong did the covers which are included in this torrent.


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Post 19-Feb-2007 21:04 (after 4 minutes)

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I have all those other versions and glad to see this available to finally end the search for the
best quality.
thanks for your efforts David! its very appreciated!!
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Post 19-Feb-2007 22:15 (after 1 hour 11 minutes)

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Nice one, cheers!!
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Post 19-Feb-2007 22:52 (after 36 minutes)

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Wish I could help seed but the ISO I have does'nt seem to match the one being uploaded :(
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Post 19-Feb-2007 22:53 (after 1 minute)

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It's great to see this even better quality source available. Thank you so much David!!
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Post 19-Feb-2007 22:59 (after 5 minutes)

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Wish I could help seed but the ISO I have does'nt seem to match the one being uploaded :(
Sorry plainsong. I added your covers within the ISO which means it won't be a perfect match with the ISO I already sent you.
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Post 19-Feb-2007 23:31 (after 32 minutes)

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Wish I could help seed but the ISO I have does'nt seem to match the one being uploaded :(
Sorry plainsong. I added your covers within the ISO which means it won't be a perfect match with the ISO I already sent you.
Well, guess you're on your own then :D but thanks for the show anyway :D and for you waiting for it to complete, it is a real beauty!
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Post 20-Feb-2007 01:57 (after 2 hours 26 minutes)

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Cheers! Thanks for sharing :-)
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Post 20-Feb-2007 03:14 (after 1 hour 16 minutes)

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hooray! thanks for this :)
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Post 20-Feb-2007 18:18 (after 15 hours)

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Cheers! Thanks for sharing !!!!
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Post 20-Feb-2007 19:29 (after 1 hour 11 minutes)

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THANX so much for this , very much appreciated.
CHEERS
Keith.
P.S. Anyone know of any Smiths bootleg that has ' SUFFER LITTLE CHILDREN ' on it and is it available anywhere ?????????
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Post 20-Feb-2007 21:59 (after 2 hours 29 minutes)

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If i do well remember, the only time Smiths played 'suffer little children' was at their first gig, never recorded.
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